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It could of course be a blend of both - it's very possible the Cloverfield monster could have brought with it alien pathogens that Earth has never discovered before. There's many ways they could spin this (if they do) that would make sense and could still incorporate the monster itself. Could also involve a human engineered virus to try and combat the Monster(s) which inevitably mutate to attack Humans too. So many possibilities but I'm not opposed to the idea!

I thought that this was supposed to be a direct sequel to the first Cloverfield, so why do they want to make it about a virus instead of a giant monster?

sometimes I think film makers are just.... freaking stupid and don't use logic at all

exposed.

wait didn't Matt Reeves confirmed it back in 08 that Clover was a baby in the special features bonus on the DVD?

Cool, as much as I enjoyed 10 Cloverfield Lane (haven't seen The Cloverfield Paradox yet), I'm glad that they're finally doing a direct sequel to the first movie. I'm excited to see Clover and the parasites again.

after all these years were finally getting a direct sequel

I am actually glad I didn't see Paradox. Hope the legitimate sequel does better.

I hope it doesn't try to explain Paradox's connection. Lets all just try and forget that movie. I am excited though.

Finally. A legitimate sequel. But Pixar is doing the same thing, and so far, it doesn't look that good for them. Just hope this doesn't go down that route.

Thank goodness for that. Do you know how bad it would of been if Overlord had gotten released without him mentioning it wasn't a Cloverfield film? It would put the franchise in very bad light. 

yes! 

YES

YES

YES 

YESS!/

In other words, nothing can save Cloverfield, but everything can destroy it.

yes the film was represented through the film, still doesnt hold up to me. How can you lose a monster that big? Unless it went underwater or something, i doubt the theory carries.

The film was supposed to show other info aboutthe monster. the military only had the camera as evidence of other things unaware of the military. Theres no way the military lost this thing in NYC. HOW?

Unless it got sucked through the immense plot hole of Paradox somehow then ill believe that. Sorry, but your theory is missing some things here. The  Paradox movie was just that bad that nothing can save it. 

So if it can survive a military strike, I wonder how it would do against the Pacific Rim kaiju.

I don't think they could track it then, remember the first movie was seen through the camera, meaning that they couldn't confirm if they killed the creature or not.

The military needed to confirm the death of the creature, so they watched the video from the camera closest to the strike so they could get an idea if the creature survived or not. (It did survive apparently.)

^That's a possibility but thanks to the misdirection and convoluted story, we the audience will never know. I don't think the director or producer knows either.

How can the baby clover monster go back into hiding for many years? With the army keeping it tracked and monitored how can anything that big just hide and then get even bigger with no one noticing it for years?

I just think the whole movie thinks we are stupid and gullible enough to think any of this could work. For once I think this movie would have worked better without the Clover monster in it. Not to pander to its audience at all and just have this piece of shit just lie in its own pile of shit away from the other movies.

I have a theory:

1. When the station first teleported the monster appeared from some sort of non-exsistance.

2. The monster then had offspring.(The large shadow you see when the city is first attacked.)

3. When the station is teleported back to their reality, one of the offspring is teleported back in time and attacks NYC.

4. The baby escapes NYC and goes into hiding for many years growing up to become the monster.

That's the paradox: monster has baby, baby becomes monster and births itself. (Just so you know, i'm pretty sure the monster had more than one offspring.)

I think it just shows how LAZY Writers are nowadays....

While the event could describe HOW Cloverfield Monsters had been introduced to alternative universes, to claim this event leads to the Original is odd...

The only way this adds up, is if the Paradox not only effected the Universe of Cloverfield but also affected its Time.... or that while Parallel Universes happen side by side... not every Alternative Universe is stuck in the same EXACT Time-Line.

I think the Next Movie OVERLORD will attempt to address exactly this, so that something happens in this Movie where its in the 1940's and the Cloverfield Paradox movie event causes something to this Overlord Universe where its currently in the 1940's just as it had with the Cloverfield Movie universe when it was set in 2007/2008 etc.

I thought that they (the movies in the franchise) weren't supposed to be in the same timeline.

Confusion field. 

I can understand the focus of the film being about the space station breaking through an alternate universe thus being the origin for the Cloverfield monster, the film does touch on the monster a bit but the film isn't about the monster, its about the reason why the monster is there in the first place.

But to throw at us to say that the monster grew in one night? while its attacking 2 parts of the world at the same time? doubt it.

I would have bought that the end of this movie is another alternate reality or universe where there are more monsters all over the world. And that the rip in time and space sent monsters to all kinds of universes and time rips on earth in different realities. I would believe that. That makes more sense. That is more creepy, that way you can make up all kind of continuity to all the future films to come and say "its another universe an another earth" that will get you out of so many problems that you can make 100 cloverfield films and they can take place whenever and wherever and whatever you want!

But they choose to shove this garbage that the monster in the end of the film is the same from a different movie only in a different part of the world and a different size so shortly after its attack in NYC?

Well, I see where this franchise is going. Its going to piss off all of us off in the end.

Yeah this doesn't make any sense. If the events of the first film had happened, you'd think the whole movie would be about "What do we do against the mountain sized monster?". 

ok? so the same monster that attacked Manhattan somehow got from one continent to another in one night after the attack in NYC, grew up?

if that where true, why wasn't it ever mentioned in Cloverfield that the world was on the brink of war? I mean, the first movie setting was set in a pretty chill time? The black outs never bothered a huge city like NYC? It all seems a little far fetched even for a monster movie. NOTHING was brought up about the space station/war/power shortages in Cloverfield.

This is a fun franchise, but don't be feeding us convoluted bull to sell these movies to us J.J. !

Well i saw the movie, its not to bad, Plot is not to different from what has been covered before, but then how many movie Plots are Original nowadays?

I think the Story needed some changes, to make it a better Plot, i feel the Lesser Known cast acted reasonably well, some more than others it was not shocking Poor Acting.  Visually it looked good for a Lower Budget Flick.

Few Supple Clovefield Movies connections clues, less Supple than Cloverfield Lanes Space Worm Dialog.  Few Easter Eggs too.

I felt the Ending was very Tagged on though, but i wont give it away but it makes sense of some of JJ Abrahams comments on the First Movie.

Overall, a Average Flick i would say its on similar level to LIFE as far as quality overall, like a Lower Budget Space Flick than Life but looks good for a low budget.   Nothing i would be in a Rush to See again soon, but down the line it may have the odd Re-Watch Value, much like LIFE had.... which means i seen LIFE last year, but have not seen it again and i am in no real Rush to watch it again sadly.

"The movie just feels like the last 10 minutes were lopped off the script and rewritten entirely"

Seems to me that Paramount have a number of movie ideas around that would be LOW Budget Straight to Home Release, i.e like those shown on the Sci-Fi channel so NO SCOPE for a Theatrical Release.

It appear Paramount either started on some of these, or decided to do so and then with JJ Abrahams they think they can take a Sci-Fi movie idea on a Low Budget that may/may not do to well.

And then just Cut the Ending of these Stories to Spoon Feed in some Cloverfield Universe Connection purely to make a Movie that may have struggled to make money, to now make a bit more money.

To be fair 10 Clovefield Land minus the Cloverfield Title/Ending  would have made a interesting movie, but one that would have not made a great amount at the BOX OFFICE  as a stand alone movie Cloverfield Lane was not that bad, the Ending was not needed, but i can see how it fits if they chose to TIE it in future with Cloverfield via a extra footage added to a movie like God Particle.

Should they have even made it?

After speaking with someone who had seen the original God Particle before its Cloverfield add-ons I can assure you there were no answers given to any of the questions you posed above--Which in part is why the Cloverfield elements elevate it. If it were already a dud, might as well add some minor blemishes of something that would keep us tuned in.

And yes, you are absolutely right the 10 Cloverfield Lane was produced in the same with a fresh ending, but at least in that film the ending works because it's played with a sense of irony.

I for one enjoy the anthology take Cloverfield is going for and I also appreciate Abrams pulling these movies under its banner from studios and execs with little to no faith in the original projects. It turns the franchise into a giant Twilight Zone/Outer Limits/Black Mirror set of standalone features. I don't think the latest film is the best example of these types of stories, but I do admire the rescue operation Abrams and Bad Robot have performed to keep these stories from getting shelved.

No, I disagree entirely with the sentiment that the Cloverfield elements elevated it. Elevated interest? Sure. But the quality of the movie itself? I just don't see it.

Without the forced tie ins to the Cloverfield series, it would have been an average sci fi flick with likely an ending that actually resolved many of the subplots established in the film (like that doctor's supposed ties with Germany, the one character apparently being from the other dimension and trying to escape it, the little girl the husband randomly finds in the middle of the wreckage whose story goes nowhere, the implications that time travel has something to do with this seeing how the "alt. dimension" Earth was 6 months into the future being on the opposite side of the sun with the station disappearing 6 months prior, the religious subtexts that kept coming up, etc.). But by forcing such a dramatic change, the film is littered with plot holes and incoherence. The movie just feels like the last 10 minutes were lopped off the script and rewritten entirely; the entire movie jumps from a sci fi survival drama to an action thriller complete with a sudden bad guy to fight. 

And the mere practice of picking up someone else's screenplay that they had been working on for years (God Particle, the original title, was announced in 2012) and then forcing a dramatic change to the script by completely changing the ending just in order to shove it into a film series is just sickening to me. One of the slimiest business practices I've ever seen in Hollywood, to be honest. I could care less if the film made more money as a Cloverfield sequel/prequel/whatever or not; someone busted their ass fleshing out the story only to have it switched up on them like that and then passed off as if Abrams was the "genius" behind it all just by relation alone.

And the worst part about it, this isn't the first time it's happened. 10 Cloverfield Lane, while a solid movie throughout the majority of its run, had that out of nowhere alien scene at the ending. I'll bet $100 that that sequence wasn't in the original ending of the screenplay at all and they just added it on to tie it into Cloverfield. I mean for crying out loud, the original movie was called The Cellar.

And who knows. Maybe the original God Particle was even worse. But my point is I would rather see a movie with its complete concept realized rather than one that jams itself into an already established universe with no rhyme or reason other than its producer wanting it to be so.

It's definitely the weakest of the Cloverfield franchise. Although I think some of the negative reactions to it are a little over-the-top.

If anything I think the added Cloverfield blemishes that Abrams and Bad Robot put into the original God Particle movie, probably elevated it. Without it, it's a cheap, poor man's Event Horizon. It largely still is.

I've started buying in to the idea that the Cloverfield franchise is just an anthology of weird ideas happening, so I'm not sure it necessarily needed the loose tie-in to the first movie. But at the same time, had it not been assimilated into the Cloverfield franchise I would have had no interest in it whatsoever. In a way, Abrams did this film a favor.

@JurassicNight

(Warning: spoilers)

Don't watch it if you're in it just for the monster. It's literally a 5 second cameo that has absolutely nothing to do with the main plot; in fact it's a Shyamalan style "what a twist!" moment right before they cut to credits. You're better off searching for it on YouTube.

The movie attempts to answer questions about its origin, but it's tacked on so hard through that last minute ending switch and a little bit of ADR radio; has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the movie.

God damn has this movie hurt J.J. Abram's reputation for me. It's so obvious he forced a ton of changes on an original screenplay just to shove it into the Cloverfield "universe" (if you can even call it that). Suddenly the weird alien scene at the end of 10 Cloverfield Lane makes a lot more sense.


Also, again, I apologize if someone reading this liked the movie. That is all power to you that you found enjoyment in it. It just really rubbed me the wrong way; especially when I looked into how it was made.

Question, do I need to have watched the second movie (10 Cloverfield lane) to understand what is going on in this movie?

Well it appears to be a movie that split fans, i think i will have to take out a NetFlix trial to wait and see....

When the project was announced after 10 Cloverfield lane, i felt it seemed pretty much they will be taking the Alternative Universes/Dimensions route to Tag in how the events of Cloverfield and 10 Cloverfield Lane connect to Earth, i felt if done right it could open the door for a few more Anthology Alternative Universes movies but each would have to have something unique.

I best keep away from the Internet with this one, as i basically found out what 10 Clovefield Lane and Cloverfield were about before i even saw them.

So real quick, does this movie have anything to do with Cloverfield (the giant monster) and does it answer any of the questions about it. 

Holy shit I just got done watching it.

What a stupid movie.

And you can totally tell that they just slapped Cloverfield on the title at the last second and changed the last 5 minutes for marquee value; just like they did 10 Cloverfield Lane. But at least 10 Cloverfield Lane had a coherent plot; this one was just a bloody mess!

Ugh.

Mini rant over I guess. If you enjoyed it, good for you. But that was completely disappointing to me.

It was definitely an experience to watch. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

Just finished watching The Cloverfield Paradox... wow.

Well this is unexpected.

Woah, I didn't see that coming. What a surprise.